Posts by Driving Force

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Did judge Rutherford piss off Hitler

by greenhornet in

the jws at the time in germany where considered part of the aryan race, (since they were not jews).

then things changed for the jws after rutherford mailed a letter to hitler bragging about jehovahs kingdom on earth.. so can we add this to the bloodshed that that the watchtower corp is responsible for?.

Driving Force

JWs preach christian neutrality, then and now.
Trying to appease the Hitler Government was breaking this christian neutrality, the protesting against the government as Rutherford did really pissed Hitler off, IMO JWs were unduly persecuted, but they were persecuted because they broke their Christian neutrality, not because they maintained neutrality.

If JWs had really remained neutral during that period, I doubt that they would have ended up in the concentration camp. The death of JWs at the hands of Hitler had a great deal to do with how the bOrg handled the neutrality issue, the Watchtower has the blood of these witnesses in theirs hands as much as the Hitler regime had.

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Attention JW lurkers: May JW TV broadcast demonstrates the GB's utter contempt for you (and all non-elite JWs)

by sir82 in

in may's "we will never solicit for money, but now we're going to solicit you for the next hour" broadcast, we kept hearing about all the "facts" that the gb would like for us to know.. hmm...what facts did they leave out?.

-- $millions have been spent in out-of-court settlements of child abuse cases.

-- $untold amounts are being spent on legal defense of wt policies related to child abuse.

Driving Force

I had a session with my psychiatrist this morning, (yes I need it after 28 years thought control), I am lucky to find one that is really knowledgeable about cults and how they work.

One thing he said this morning was that something has to happen, some kind of action by the cult, before a person starts to question things. Unfortunately he said that most people in a cult have given up thinking independently, they do not want to think, because it is so much easier to have somebody else do the thinking for them. The thing is with JWs, they have such a wonderful future planned out for them, everlasting life in a paradise earth, why should they risk losing that by thinking independently.
Subjects like this for lurkers is really good, it might just get them thinking, perhaps this is a subject that will cause them to evaluate things.

I think it is really good that lurkers are on here, because their sleep is being disturbed.

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40 years on - and still in Damage Control mode!

by Bungi Bill in

earlier this morning, i posted off to the the institute of engineers an application for membership as an "engineering associate":.

- today being just over 40 years since the congregation's retards elders made me abandon my apprenticeship.. (in this part of the world, the pre-1975 hype was taken to that level.

not being content to prevent young persons attending university, they went one step further and treated with hostility any youngster who would "tie up five years of their lives" by entering into an apprenticeship.

Driving Force

Good one Bill, all the best to you.

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Sikh man removes turban to help bleeding child

by konceptual99 in

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i think the lesson on the blood issue in this story is obvious.. http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/hero-sikh-man-breaks-strict-5711701.

Driving Force

Brilliant!

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JW sighting while shopping

by Scully in

i was out today at the grocery store, picking up a few things for the weekend, when just beyond the pineapples, i spotted a jw lady i was once friends with.. i wasn't interested in engaging in conversation, so i just continued picking out fruit, when out of the corner of my eye, i see her look at me and recognize me.

she looked like she was panicking, and then darted behind a pillar in the store, trying to hide from me!.

my dd was with me and noticed what happened.

Driving Force

Scully.

I used to read the days text in the morning now I take a look at whats new on this site.

And your entry made me laugh this morning.

Village idiot.

"boo!" I like it.

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A big hello and thank you

by iwasblind in

i just wanted to introduce myself and say a big hello to all of my mentally diseased friends.. i say friends because i have been lurking for some time so it feels like home (us lurkers are a bit scared and cautious so it takes a while).

i won't bore you with too many details, but i am a born in, currently serving as the cobe of a congregation.

my wife and i have pioneered for the last 10 years and were shaken awake by that ridiculous 15th july 2013 wt about the generation and 1914.. my wife who is much smarter than me has questioned for years.

Driving Force

iwasblind

Thanks for your story.

It not very nice have you whole family in the bOrg and I wish you strength and hope that you manage to help others wake up.

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JW 'urban legends'

by Steve Lowry in

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i was thinking about some of the old jw urban legends that we grew up with and believed in as jws.

most of the ones i remember revolved around stories about demons, and jws being "attacked" when they would do something wrong.

some of these legends scared the crap outta me when i was little.

Driving Force

Here is one I heard.

Chris de Burgh giving a concert and apparently there was a piece he wanted to do where the drums would play themselves, apparently the daemons would play the drums. The didn't play because there were some JWs in the audience, so Chris de Burgh asked that if there were any JWs in the audience that they should leave the auditorium, otherwise the daemons would not play the drums.

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I asked where is the proof?

by disillusioned 2 in

arguing with my husband again, i asked where is the proof that jesus looked down on earth in 1919 and chose a small group of bible students in america apart from them saying it in their magazines.

also where is the proof that satan and his demons were cast down in 1914 just because first world war started.

neither of these things are in the bible only in their magazines.

Driving Force

disillusioned 2

I know how you feel, my wife treats me in the same way. But at least you are free from this mind control.

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Crap Shoot

by John Aquila in

what would have happen if i was not home when jehovahs witnesses knocked on my door?.

there was a group of us living in a small trailer in the mid 60s when and old pioneer brother knocked on our door and placed all kinds of books and magazines with us.

all of us took it seriously and studied and started attending the kingdom hall.

Driving Force

I partially agree with what Pete Zahut says about those who were more or less destitute, but is there any moral justification about taking over the mind of such people.

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Rumor about the Imitate Jesus Convention

by FusionTheism in

i saw a rumor a few weeks ago on reddit that the new imitate jesus convention is supposed to present new light and clarified understandings on the disfellowshipping/disassociation practices.. supposedly, if this rumor has any truth to it, there will be a talk given at the convention about how we should not be strict like the pharisees in how we shun people, loosening up some of the jw rules about this practice.. has anyone here heard anything about this or have more info on it?.

Driving Force

New Light and Clarified Understandings on the Disfellowshipping/Disassociation practices.

I was reading through the thread and everybody seems to think if this new light comes it will be positive in that they will weaken the stance on Disfellowshipping/Disassociation. Well how about them tightening it up even further, by including faders. They could have some arbitrary limit for being inactive, and after lets say 6 months these persons will automatically be disassociated. This would be more like the bOrg.